My Twitter stream this morning seemed to consist of nothing but negative reactions to the recently rolled out Klout score changes. Friends of mine who are equally as social-influence conscious (if not more) reported score drops as high as 20 points. Others, disturbed by the sudden score nosedive, were quick to dismiss Klout’s supposedly “more accurate” scoring model, citing several incredibly valid reasons for their decision — most of which I’ve listed below.
This naturally made me a bit curious about my own score change, a feeling that prompted me to pay a visit to Klout.com in order to gauge my personal results. Surprise. My own score had dropped by several points as well, taking me down from a 75 to a 68 — that’s a 7 point decrease for me.
How do I feel about my score plummeting by seven points? At first I felt a bit cheated. Some look towards Klout scores as a sort of vanity metric, a source for bragging and validation that gives those with higher points a sense of elite importance in the socially influential world. Admittedly, I felt the same way. Having worked my way up to a 75 over what I feel is years upon years of thoroughly-engaged social media activity, to see my score quickly decline was, to put it simply, disheartening.
Klout addresses the new score changes
Klout has yet to actually reveal how this new score is calculated, of course, which leaves me with absolutely no credible way to dispute the validity of my much lower influence rating.
As transparency has always been one of the biggest problems with Klout, our editor Drew Olanoff took it upon himself to grill Klout’s CEO, Joe Fernandez, on the issue. In response, Fernandez mentioned the upcoming Score Insights feature for Klout, a tool meant to offer a better understanding of how Klout works, as well as how one can actively work towards a higher score on the service. Fernandez also mentioned that the entire scoring system for Klout would undergo a change meant to supposedly provide more accurate measurements of social influence.
Having been a fan of Klout for so long even without the coming Score Insights feature, this revelation perked me up a bit. ‘Finally’, I thought! ‘I will now have the ability to more deeply understand how my score is affected by audience engagement on Facebook, Twitter and other social networking platforms. With these new insights in mind, I can better assess how to approach my social media activity in the future. Bonus!’
Judging by the 1,000+ negative comment reaction to Klout’s recent corporate blog post about the new score changes, however, a good chunk of active Klout users appear to feel very differently.
Some notable reactions to the new scores:
“I have all metrics going up: Blog traffic is up, retweets are up, Facebook engagement is up, Followers up — Yet my score dropped 19 points today.” — PamMktgNut.
“I can handle a score change, but you should then also update the history statistics as anyone viewing my graphs will see a massive plummet with no explanation why it’s gone down hill so fast. If I was searching for a job in Social Media right now I’d be concerned.” — Richard Mackney.
“Klout scores are now used for job searches, employment mandates and a number of similar functions. The change impacts the job viability and even the ability for people to apply for certain jobs which have minimum Klout scores based on the prior metrics. Similarly, you have retroactively altered the history of our Klout scores as if they had always been this way, which has created a number of financial and employment hardships already this morning.
I have clients who used Klout as a metric of their social media advertising success, and you have now made all of those willing to try this look like fools in front of their Boards when they reported the Klout scores along with PeerIndex, Twitter Grader and other related metrics this morning.” — Kalani Kirk Hausman
“I’m seeing many people that are just casual on Facebook have 10+ rankings over those that are only on Twitter and have a very large and engaged audiences. Explain why Timothy Whalin, a guy who has 10k followers and is listed 1500 times, has a lower score than most casual Facebook users. The math just doesn’t make sense.
As an advertiser, I would much rather reach a guy like Timothy than a casual Facebook user who has high influence with his grandma.” — Tyler Murray
Headhunters and Hiring Managers, beware!
The most distressing problem about the sudden Klout score changes apparently lies in the job market, where the hiring potential of future employees are sometimes gauged by their online influence on social measurement tools like Klout.
On this subject, allow me to reassure you: It should be noted that any hiring manager who remains unaware of the recent changes to Klout’s scoring model and judges your resumes or scores based on previous algorithms is probably not qualified enough to hire you anyway, and should likely be fired.
I do agree, however, with Mackney’s statement that comparing today’s score to yesterday’s score is horribly inaccurate. If Klout wants to change an entire metric system that many have relied on for so long, prior and public metrics should also reflect these changes so as to avoid inaccuracy.
To reiterate on Mackney’s comment, those uneducated in the world of social influence might view these sudden point drops as a warning flag that a user is now less-influential than he was before, rather than as a sign of change within Klout’s scoring model. In this case, transparency on when overall scores began changing to reflect the new algorithm should definitely receive a bit of TLC.
How accurate are the new metrics?
Klout claims that its PeopleRanking system scores influencers on the following three metrics:
- How many people you influence
- How much you influence them
- How influential they are
Assuming this is true, here are a few examples that might explain the recent score changes.
Let’s pretend that one of my tweets has been retweeted 100 times. This does not mean that my Klout score will magically jump from a 68 to a 70 just because a single tweet of mine has erupted with activity. Several factors come into play when deciding how this affects my score. For one thing, those retweeting my content might only have 1 or 2 followers themselves, making their retweets less valid in the overall scope of my reach. For another, the followers of those individual users might not have any followers themselves, making that user pretty much obsolete in terms of their own influence and reach.
In another example, let’s take a Facebook post. Facebook, as you know, has well over 800 million users on the platform. Many Facebook users have several hundreds of friends, if not more, meaning that any post you share on the platform there which is liked or shared by another user will undoubtedly reach more people. Knowing this, it makes sense that Facebook scores are calculated a bit more heavily than Twitter scores. It’s not to say that Klout scores lean completely on Facebook for its scoring model, but when you think about it in terms of the actual statistics and data, it seems to makes sense. Or it should, if we’re to believe the above system is accurate.
Again, let’s say I share one of my articles on both Facebook and Twitter. On Twitter, my article is retweeted by 5 users, all who have maybe 3 followers each. On Facebook, my article is liked or shared by only two of my friends, both who have several hundred actively engaged Facebook friends, as well as several subscribers who are likely to see that users’ activity on his or her stream. Not only that, but their friends also have several hundred friends on the platform as well, all of which also have people subscribed to their public updates.
Phew!
In this case, you can see that impressions on Facebook are more likely to reach higher levels of engagement than impressions on Twitter would. In this same vein, it is less likely that Klout users can “game” the metrics of the system, as the scoring model is now based more heavily on the overall influence of everyone involved in the amplification process, rather than, well, whatever it may have been based on before, which I’m still not quite sure about, actually.
Here’s what I want to know …
Okay. So Klout can supposedly measure how influential each person is based on how many Twitter followers they have, comments or likes they receive, amplification via retweets or reshares, etc — but are they actually measuring true engagement? What I mean is, sure, a person can be reshared or retweeted several times over, but what about clicks? What about conversions? What about thousands of blogging sites linking towards someone’s Twitter account that aren’t counted as part of the social scoring process because they aren’t calculated by Klout’s PeopleRanking system?
I’d argue that all of the examples above are important metrics when gauging someone’s social influence or reach. Does Klout take blog page-ranking information from Google, for example? Is that possible, and should it bother? And if Klout ever does start ranking social influence via blogs as well, how will this eventually affect Klout’s current score model? Do people even care?
This all comes down to the simple fact that the scoring of social influence is something that no one really understands, despite Klout’s claim to the social influence throne. For now, social influence scoring is, at best, a trivial pseudoscience akin to horoscopes or astrology. Until some sort of social methodology is shown and proven, no one will be able to seriously rely on services like Klout (or any other social-scoring system, really). And it certainly doesn’t help when widely-used social analytics tools suddenly change their entire ranking system, debasing previous studies of their methods.
What do you think? Do you agree with Klout’s new scoring model? How do you feel about the accuracy of social influence scoring, and what should be done to improve it? Weigh in below.





















My 15 year old niece has a higher score than Stephen Hawking. Nuff' said!
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LikeI want Klout to remove it's orange badge from my Twitter profile. I have attempted to opt-out. Their marketing policy is aggressive in that if you opt-out and deny Klout access to your social networks, then they give you a highly visible low Klout score on Twitter. This is a form of punishment for attempting to leave. It's an abuse of power. It should be illegal.
I have contacted Klout several times about this. It's unprofessional to treat the public this way. I hesitate to try new apps because of Klout. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/g0o0rv
I want to know what governing agency monitors tech companies like Klout. I feel their actions are short-sighted and will hinder innovation... all tech companies will eventually suffer the consequences of strict new laws to govern the actions of people like them.
If anyone knows how to formally lodge a complaint against this company, please get in touch. I'm also interested in exploring the possibility of a class-action lawsuit.
My twitter profile has to remain public...it's how I stay in contact with new and existing fans. Other people need to remain public as well for work reasons. It wouldn't be so awful if it was possible to make the score private, but they don't give you that option. It's just unacceptable.
If you ever log onto Twitter and visit @RhondasSongs, if Klout is prominently visible on my profile, then you need to know it's there COMPLETELY against my will.
It's there despite repeated requests to remove it.
It's there as a constant reminder that this company that I have no reason to trust has access to my personal information across other social networks because I feel forced to allow them to peer into my other social networks in order to avoid the punishment of a very low score prominently displayed in front of thousands of my fans and followers.
One day, I WILL sue Klout and I will win.
Rhonda Merrick
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LikeThe thing about social influence scoring is it's really not so different from any other type of media scoring, it's just a lot more public and far-reaching. You know when those Nielsen scores come out, they're based on a handful of people who bothered to fill out a form for a buck; is that really an accurate measure of a good tv show? Our company's social anthropologist took a stab at this topic, but he also included PROskore, Empire Avenue and PeerIndex. (Check it out on the White Horse site: http://bit.ly/uHWCwu)
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LikeI would be very interested to learn exactly how scores are measured and whether a "net gravity" rules the system vs specific criteria, i.e. expanding universe vs milestone.
I'm guessing the system changed to a more accurate depiction of individual influence and left a less reputable, sensationalistic, and easy to attain higher scoring model. I would go so far as to say, I think Klout intentionally boosted early rankings to reach critical mass; nobody wants to broadcast what may be perceived as a low score. But who knows what that is anyway?
That being said, I still believe that lower "high" scores are easier to attain and some type of ratcheting model is used to throttle, say, 75 and above. Essentially, I believe Klout has credibility at the higher end AND that, unless the score is north of 85, no single entity has clout worthy of a financial investment. The exception, of course, a financial investment being a "Pay for Performance" investment. And as we all know, that's how Clickbank does it... ;)
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Likereading this made me log into klout. my score has been in the same range so whatever changed didn't affect me positively or negatively.
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LikeOnce upon a Trend: The reliability of KloutOctober 26, some italian users (digital natives) have decided to test the Klout system by running the #ktrain http://www.searcheeze.com/it/view/4ea9185ed57a053fb9000001
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LikeYesterday AM my score was a 65 - hours later - it plummeted to a 51. I received an email from Klout stating a decrease is "rare" even though an insane amount of folks are complaining about a decrease. I disconnected all my social media tools - except Twitter - because once an account is verified only Klout can do that - what?!?! My score went up to 55 today. The thing I have an issue with - Klout isn't a credit reporting agency - they don't have a right to use ANY information - private OR public to rank me and then broadcast that info. Any sorry but social media is still in its infancy - most hiring managers have ZERO clue about social media - and will not be aware of these changes..
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LikeKlout isn't a measurement of influence if you dig into their methodology. It's a byproduct of the recently spawned social media ninja and doesn't really translate to any real impact. However, it can be used to identify active users on social platforms, which is a lot more useful than just targeting people with a lot of followers.
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LikeYeah, I was like a 747 that just lost ALL engines.... From a 61 to a 38... and a true reach of 30,000+ to now a true reach of 400+? I noticed though that "Klout" themselves stayed RIGHT at 85 ; ) Like some of the other comments above I too see increases across the board, yet Klout reflects decreasing #'s... not too mention, even though we all enjoy the self-massage of ego which comes with a decent/respectable score from an algorithmic determination, the sheer massive number of errors, bugs, and broken code present within Klout tells me it's still going to be quite a while before this ever TRULY matters... It is what's being done, so even if our efforts again, are the mere "passings of time" & " entertainings of self", we do this now because we stay fresh, plugged in, "In the loop"; Either Klout will improve, or Klout will be called "Clout" again, be forgotten, and kneeling once again before affluence and passion.Perpetually Amplified Potent Gratitude.
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LikeConversation from Twitter
heycheri Remember? I haven't forgot or forgiven!!! Hahahaha. #maiscoreiztehsuxorz
haulblog Yeah. I personally stopped checking back on klout after the score changes. It sounds like that opinion reflects across the board.
menghe Yeah, I'm aware of that... my klout dived because of that change. I think they might've tweaked it today. Thanks 4 article! klout
BreakAtLove klout You must be doing something right. Mine's still on a steady decline.
grattongirl Thanks for the RT
iisolde and i don't say that because mine dropped. but looking at some with high #klout who talk a lot but don't say much influential. meh
52martinis indeed, there are quite a few examples to show how random it can be!
iisolde yep. I've decided it's kind of useless but I'm still fascinated with checking scores. #knowitsawasteoftime
iisolde me too with new #klout. decided to stop looking because I don't think it scoring well.
jgombita, it made virtually no difference to mine, I went up 2 points
wadv maybe it's actually more accurate, then! (Although people won't want to hear that.)
jgombita I suspect it is actually. I do think tho that its a false reality, we shod be more concerned with coversion % than #kloutscore
Personally wadv (as a #PR specialist), I think we should be more concerned with online reputation, value & relationship building! :-)
simoncrerar kingpodge Was some kind of re-jig I dropped 11 too
DJHUNT4CAIRNS simoncrerar haha as long as i'm not the only one, i can continue to tweet my dribble!
alywalansky #Klout is not scientific enough to take that seriously. Like a horoscope, it should be something to have fun with!
pepe08 summify KandisKnightPR crhistis Exactly! THE worse! I dropped 16 point sin less than 24 hrs. Smh. Unreliable.
dondeandoporai A maior parte dos usuarios baixou de 10 a 15 pontos no Klout...
ninocarvalho mas qual a lógica? O meu baixou tb, mas acho que agora ficou mais realista... Isso seria só impressão ou procede mesmo?
freestyleint oh the irony, I can hardly contain my excitement ;)
1andywood causing trouble for a few agencies as well who have used it as a primary metric! Makes their past results redundant.
slecluyse ik ben ook 30 punten kwijt. Geen idee hoe dat komt. Gewoon negeren denk ik :)
garethfox no cause mine went way up :) #win
pepe08 Muchas gracias Jose! :) summify KandisKnightPR
richardmackney most of them seem to players trying to game the game. Firing out links but no creating any content.... IMHO
richardmackney tnwsocialmedia LOL does make me chuckle how so many "social media gurus" live off some algorithm #trytherealworld
katetowsey good! :)
katetowsey someone else tweeted that whining about a #klout drop is like complaining your horoscope isn't accurate /cc ThomasMarzano
sophiedennis katetowsey hahaha lol
BSchuler Yes but Klout score is not just for the egotistical twitterers out there...
ThomasMarzano My Klout actually increased!
mdebruin laten we eerlijk zijn, wie heeft meer invloed in de "echte" wereld? Een voetballer of een "guru"? #klout
LudoRaedts Helemaal mee eens. Maar het is wel vaak zenden en weinig tot geen interactie.
mdebruin klopt, en dat is dus het manco van #klout. Altijd geweest. De score is vaak gebaseerd op een deelonderwerp (heel vaak social)
mdebruin nog 3 tweets en "klout thinks your influential about Klout" #hoehoudjejezelfbezig #klout :-)
TadekSolarz Ja, de #klout-deflatie viel me ook al op. Ach, who cares...!?
BookMD signed into klout with twitter...Where do I finger klout number ??
zoomarang Did it give you a score yet? It has to calculate Facebook, LinkedIn, twitter, who knows. I think it's crap.
BookMD no I didn't...