The original post, written by David Thorne, with more background information is here.
From: Simon Edhouse
Date: Monday 16 November 2009 2.19pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Logo Design
Hello David,
I would like to catch up as I am working on a really exciting project at the moment and need a logo designed. Basically something representing peer to peer networking. I have to have something to show prospective clients this week so would you be able to pull something together in the next few days? I will also need a couple of pie charts done for a 1 page website. If deal goes ahead there will be some good money in it for you.
Simon
From: David Thorne
Date: Monday 16 November 2009 3.52pm
To: Simon Edhouse
Subject: Re: Logo Design
Dear Simon,
Disregarding the fact that you have still not paid me for work I completed earlier this year despite several assertions that you would do so, I would be delighted to spend my free time creating logos and pie charts for you based on further vague promises of future possible payment. Please find attached pie chart as requested and let me know of any changes required.
Regards, David.
From: Simon Edhouse
Date: Monday 16 November 2009 4.11pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Logo Design
Is that supposed to be a fucking joke? I told you the previous projects did not go ahead. I invested a lot more time and energy in those projects than you did. If you put as much energy into the projects as you do being a dickhead you would be a lot more successful.
From: David Thorne
Date: Monday 16 November 2009 5.27pm
To: Simon Edhouse
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
Dear Simon,
You are correct and I apologise. Your last project was actually both commercially viable and original. Unfortunately the part that was commercially viable was not original, and the part that was original was not commercially viable.
I would no doubt find your ideas more ‘cutting edge’ and original if I had traveled forward in time from the 1950′s but as it stands, your ideas for technology based projects, that have already been put into application by other people several years before you thought of them, fail to generate the enthusiasm they possibly deserve. Having said that though, if I had traveled forward in time, my time machine would probably put your peer to peer networking technology to shame as not only would it have commercial viability, but also an awesome logo and accompanying pie charts.
Regardless, I have, as requested, attached a logo that represents not only the peer to peer networking project you are currently working on, but working with you in general.
Regards, David.
From: Simon Edhouse
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 11.07am
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
You just crossed the line. You have no idea about the potential this project has. The technology allows users to network peer to peer, add contacts, share information and is potentially worth many millions of dollars and your short sightedness just cost you any chance of being involved.
From: David Thorne
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 1.36pm
To: Simon Edhouse
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
Dear Simon,
So you have invented Twitter. Congratulations. This is where that time machine would definitely have come in quite handy.
When I was about twelve, I read that time slows down when approaching the speed of light so I constructed a time machine by securing my father’s portable generator to the back of my mini-bike with rope and attaching the drive belt to the back wheel. Unfortunately, instead of traveling through time and finding myself in the future, I traveled about fifty metres along the footpath at 200mph before finding myself in a bush. When asked by the nurse filling out the hospital accident report “Cause of accident?” I stated ‘time travel attempt’ but she wrote down ‘stupidity’.
If I did have a working time machine, the first thing I would do is go back four days and tell myself to read the warning on the hair removal cream packaging where it recommends not using on sensitive areas. I would then travel several months back to warn myself against agreeing to do copious amounts of design work for an old man wielding the business plan equivalent of a retarded child poking itself in the eye with a spoon, before finally traveling back to 1982 and explaining to myself the long term photographic repercussions of going to the hairdresser and asking for a haircut exactly like Simon LeBon’s the day before a large family gathering.
Regards, David.
From: Simon Edhouse
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 3.29pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
You really are a fucking idiot and have no idea what you are talking about. The project I am working on will be more successful than twitter within a year. When I sell the project for 40 million dollars I will ignore any emails from you begging to be a part of it and will send you a postcard from my yaght. Ciao.
From: David Thorne
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 3.58pm
To: Simon Edhouse
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
From: Simon Edhouse
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 4.10pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
Anyone else would be able to see the opportunity I am presenting but not you. You have to be a fucking smart arse about it. All I was asking for was a logo and a few pie charts which would have taken you a few fucking hours.
From: David Thorne
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 4.25pm
To: Simon Edhouse
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
Dear Simon
Actually, you were asking me to design a logotype which would have taken me a few hours and fifteen years experience. For free. With pie charts. Usually when people don’t ask me to design them a logo, pie charts or website, I, in return, do not ask them to paint my apartment, drive me to the airport, represent me in court or whatever it is they do for a living. Unfortunately though, as your business model consists entirely of “Facebook is cool, I am going to make a website just like that”, this non exchange of free services has no foundation as you offer nothing of which I wont ask for.
Regards, David.
From: Simon Edhouse
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 4.43pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
What the fuck is your point? Are you going to do the logo and charts for me or not?
From: David Thorne
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 5.02pm
To: Simon Edhouse
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
From: Simon Edhouse
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 5.13pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
Do not ever email me again.
From: David Thorne
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 5.19pm
To: Simon Edhouse
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
Ok. Good luck with your project. If you need anything let me know.
Regards, David.
From: Simon Edhouse
Date: Tuesday 17 November 2009 5.27pm
To: David Thorne
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Logo Design
Get fucked.
The original post, written by David Thorne, with more background information is here.
Hahaha loved it
This seems pretty standard?
so true:)
Give credit where credit is due: http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html
came to me as a chain letter originally and without credit. I copy pasted it from there but included links back to the original as soon as I found out about David Thorne. His other stuff is hilarious too so I would certainly check that out. You can also follow the author on Twitter: @27bslash6
Genius. Check his website for more of this: http://www.27bslash6.com/matthewsparty.html
Thanks a bunch for letting me start off my day with this exchange of incredible competent and incredible incompetent e-mailing. Love it!
Why do this?
Welcome to last week, and YES it’s a fake .. and made up .. never happened..
This is almost real life. We are a design agency and boy, does this ring true. !!! Made up or not – it’s excellent.
It may be a fake, but it’s still hilarious. :)
This email exchange is covered in awesome sauce.
This is exactly what clients do! LOL… Loved it!
Too funny! Yeah, I don’t care if it’s faked or not…the humor stays the same!
Loved the “if using a time machine” pie chart. lol
morondailynews.com
Been there, done that. I wallpapered my bathroom with my old dotcom stock certificates!
Who cares if it’s fake or not? Doesn’t make it any less funny! You just completely made my Friday, thank you sir!
If you haven’t already read it, “E” by Matt Beaumont is a perfect summation of email relationships in creative agency culture. It may be ten years old, but nothing has changed.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard the Wimpy Line (“I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today”). Whether real or fake: Bravo!!!
It may be fake but I too have had similar converstations with carrot and stick clients.
event if fake : great – and contains a lot of reality…
I especially like the small black pic in it – it sure is a VERY useful symbol for making one’s point clear :)
Q to the author: Is the pic free of licence ?
Great. I needed a good laugh.
I literally have never laughed as much as this for a long, long time…
Its like every reply I have always wanted to write but haven’t had the guts…
Fantastic.
This hilarious email conversation actually originates from http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html, were you will find a bunch more even more hilarious conversations like for instance this one: http://www.27bslash6.com/matthewsparty.html
They’re written by satirist author David Thorne; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thorne_(writer)
Hahahaha, this just made my whole day! Too funny
Aah, I see (at the top of the post) you already knew were the story came from :-)
what happened to my previous comment?
That was SO funny.
stupse
can i get some email address on this please
I turned 37 just 60 minutes ago and you got me peeing in my bed reading this. Thanks. <3
Possibility Simon is a fucking dick.
100%
Ahahaha. Brilliant!
LMAO wow! Hilarious!
Yes..plagiarism of fake e-mail exchanges are LEGAL on the internet! So don’t worry that you are profiting off other peple’s (unfaunny) work without giving them credit!
Perhaps one more Pineapple Chart and mebbe a Lego, then you gonna get paid fer sure, fer sure…
hahaha bslash… b/ on 4chan.org. fail.
buhahahaha…..hillarious :D
It’s hilarious. I like those piecharts.
Fake of course.
gr8… loved every part …
wat an imagination
Insanely Hilarious…
Though it seems fake,but Enjoyed it much…
I had that feeling too… is it fake??
So nonsensical, so hilarious!!! =) On second thoughts, Edhouse’s mails do bear an uncanny resemblance to one of clients’ :-0)
YOU LEGEND LMFAOOOOOOO
You just copypasted it from another site, that sucks. Still a quite funny story :)
Hehe, true about our industry
priceless
Double digg…Hilarious! This guy is real funny :D
It’s really funny! I liked it!
Hei dickhead, stop copying other peoples work.. asshole
Funniest ever? I certainly thought so the last time it hit front page:http://digg.com/design/It_s_like_twitter_Except_we …Buried not for dupe, but for shameless ripoff.
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Simon, is that you?
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*you’re an ass
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"Ok. Good luck with your project. If you need anything let me know.Regards, David."
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Yeah thanks for quoting that, because we all totally did not just read it ourselves.
Get fucked.
Oh man…I know a dude just like that, always behind by a couple of years, then doesn’t understand when people aren’t excited by his “new” ideas. Totally hilarious.
http://www.livingwithanerd.com
what was the last .net site to really take off?
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thehun.org
Simon?!
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Where do I invest?
I have a feeling this may be staged. He mentions the yacht in the website intro.
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i want the last 10 minutes back, wish i had a time machine right now
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It took you 10 minutes to read that?
According to "This Movie Is Not Yet Rated" (expose on MPAA ratings), PG-13s are allowed one fuck. They must be very judicious about where to use it.
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http://twitter.com/27bslash6 The other dude
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good to know we now write without editing sentences now
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yes / NO
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Buried for "ever"
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That’s what she said.
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Funny, I’m sure I reddit somewhere as well.
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haha this is awesome. the last pie chart is the best
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Exactly, in a PG13 movie, you can say it once. You know what I say? Fuck that.
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But warn yourself first, 4 days before, not to use the hair removal product on your sensitive areas. The man has priorities, I’ll give him that!
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I’m more concerned about the age of the poster than whether it’s real or fake. Where are the 14 year olds with such intimate knowledge of business design and how can I con them into working on my "OMG better than Twitter" P2P website for free??/s
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Pick your moments better for dropping the TWSS line…*sigh* Amateurs!and @aplarson: if it’s too long go back to reading Dr Seuss.
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Funny how you’re still commenting obsessively on this story despite the fact that no one cares what you have to say and that every comment you have made is being buried into oblivion.
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hahahah… this is the funniest email conversation i have ever read :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDqxuGlxbWc&fea …the best I could find on short notice
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Sounds more like Simon was trying to walk across the smoldering ashes of what used to be a bridge. That rarely works out well…
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“Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good.”
Samuel Johnson
Well then I should really stop talking about her tits. Don’t want her to get the wrong idea if she happens to come across this.
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Not true. I don’t know what cecilpl is talking about with "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" but in that documentary they said that you in theory can say fuck more than once in a PG13 movie, but most movies where they would say fuck more than once are movies that are rated R for other reasons anyway.
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Very funny!
Awesome :) XD but nothing beats the classic spider e-mailhttp://emailsfromcrazypeople.com/wp-content/upload …
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I do
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http://twitter.com/simonedhouseHe claims the e-mails are fake.
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This happens all the time with photography. Things like "spend thousands of dollars in equipment and spend 8+ hours of your day shooting my wedding. In exchange we give you no money but if we need a photographer later for something, we can pay you for that maybe."
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It’s just the one pagew too from what i can tell….
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Oh shit, I DID say it out loud!
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Yeah, he created a fake Twitter account with 400 followers and linked it to a fake blog with years worth of content.I don’t think so.
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niiiice
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dugg for logo design
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Lol. This is has got to be the funniest E-mail forward I get at school. This rocks.
What the heck is wrong with you? You’ve just stolen someone’s work. You haven’t given a short description and taken a excerpt, you’ve just stolen this guys work, all of it.
You are an arse.
It sounds more like the wet dream of a designer pwning a dumb client. Do people really believe this is real?
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A few hours and 15 years experience.
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What sort of 14 year olds are sitting in their parents’ houses designing the next generation of social networking utilities?
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Want to do us a favor and not steal content from other websites? Thanks.
Buried for using phrase ______ "ever" in a title. Leave that judgement to me.
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if you noticed in this string of emails there was about a hundred re’s by the end of it.
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Second funniest. At most.
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Dugg for time machine
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uh, this wasn’t written by a right winger. the messianic stuff is tongue-in-cheek, i’m quite sure. but maybe it hit a little nerve? i remember after the election, college students were running around screaming with unbridled glee, as if they’d just won the lottery. i remember during the election, many many people screaming at the sight of obama, reminiscent of the beetle’s coming off the airplane. i’m not going to say it was a cult of personality, let alone a messianic one, but i think some of these people are a little embarrassed, now. they overreact whenever somebody makes a joke about the cult of obama.
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nothing more entertaining than programming my friend =)
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Hmmmm….So many colorful pie charts….
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This dude is an attention whore and played all of you getting this unfunny POS dugg to the top of the page.
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Unfunny? What the hell is your idea of funny? I’m guessing from your name you prefer Lawrence Welk and Hee Haw. This is INSANELY funny!!!! I’m tearing up from lauging so hard!
I think Psychology101 might just be Simon :)
This was frickin hilarious!
http://www.edgepolitics.com/?p=16&cpage=1#comm …On Simon’s blog explaining what happened.
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It appears you didn’t read the website’s disclaimer.
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The same sort that designed the first generation of social networking utilities?
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this isnt that funny. it reminds me of a facebook conversation id have myself. and im not really that funny.
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Dude, you’re an idiot. I’m literally laoughing out loud and I’m BY MYSELF. THIS IS AWESOME!!!
Agreed. Simon’s got the biggest balls, but they use up so much blood that his brain’s not working. He ripped off David, and now he has the nerve to ask for work that David can only assume will end up being pro bono again.
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i agree totaly with you TVarmy, the thing is there are so many Simons how there. and finaly David’s who won’t take the shit anymore.
How about a pie chart showing: 1) Number of people who liked this joke? 2) Number of people who liked this joke but secretly wish they had the guts to stand up to their bosses but instead find passive-aggressive ways of resisting?
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Wow, seriously? So many buries for a word most pg-13 movies don’t even use? Hal0 was right, but face it, not that many movie use fuck in a pg-13 movie.
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@muffinmonkyou said "Pg-13 never allows fucks." That’s why you got dugg down. Don’t take it personally.
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PG 13 is allowed 1 “fuck.”
I’ve seen this somewhere before…
I AM AN OUSIDER BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNNNEEEEE
Reminds me of a modern Groucho Marx scene; Simon had no idea what had just happened.
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PG-13 movies can have a ton of fucks, it just depends on context;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424129/trivia
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when i was about twelve.. haha he goes on schooling him
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He did a copy and paste just like Simon wanting to make Twitter again…Where’s that time machine?!?
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I wish I had ten friends like Simon……. because I have twenty.
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I read that a couple times over. laughed every time =P
Precisely, Didja ever get the feeling they just don’t understand what it takes in graphic artist years to reach the point where these fine ideas gel into the wonderful logos/illustrations? Or that they don’t care? This exchange should be posted where every marketing person gets their checks, and then they’re only released when an independent party gets the correct response from them.
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The statement was not correctly answerable with his answers."Probability of me digging this story"The answers should be "Will" or "Will Not" as they make sense to answering the question.
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example of Client From HELL
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what fuck is with those tags?
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A$$hole vs Smart A$$
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Hmm maybe if that so called "original link" worked… someone would digg it :P
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Are you simon?
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hilarious perfection
this is what its all about
i think more designers need to just tell it like it is … there is a LOT of insanity like this going on in the profession, and unless we start to be more blunt, honest and real about how we get treated and about the crazy-ass ideas that get thrown at us on a daily basis for the ‘make pretty’ industry, well … its not gonna change without this reality to refer to … i highly commend the David Thorne for just tellin’ it like it is … in fact, i think we all need to celebrate this sort of fight for quality in life … as much as DT comes off a some sort of punk, let’s face it … Simon-dude done the guy wrong over and over and over again in the past … AND … AND … his idea is probably as uninnovative as it gets … this is the daily tragedy of business in today’s world … this sort of ridiculous echo of the manufacturing mindset in our age of information and innovation … you can’t JUST look to the left and do what they’re doin’ and expect to make a difference or even a dollar anymore … you gotta be fncking brilliant … be brilliant of just step off please, thank you
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Great post loususi! You are a DAVID!
great post!! =)
What do you feed it to give it such a fine fur?
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classic: “What the fuck is your point? Are you going to do the logo and charts for me or not?”
Thanks for giving the link to his blog. I can’t say who’s lying, but it certainly seems like Simon’s side of the story is more plausible.
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This was actually the clue that gave it away for me that MAYBE this david guy was lying about the whole thing. Then someone in another post here showed me a link to Simon’s blog and it was all clear. We have all been trolled
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Did you just use Tinypic?
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I see you once again managed to resist the temptation of using the "Reply" button. Buried for lack of context.
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this is the funny
ken to ken to ken to ken to sivmen?
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dat wuz funni tho so shat ap gaiz
Well, it was on Reddit a couple weeks ago…http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/a82la/pleas …
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I don’t think there is a reply button for the title.
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Classic!!!! I love this… I constantly complain about this type of Client-Tom-foolery all the time. Good for David!
Fight the good fight!
Peace.
jbcr8tv
You win!
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The pie charts are funnyhttp://anastasiarussianbrides.tk
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“postcard from my yaght”
…
what’s a ‘yaght’ and why would Simon send a postcard from it?
blocked and reported for spam :)
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I don’t think it was the funniest one either.
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I love this guys comment :: from Psychology101
This dude is an attention whore and played all of you getting this unfunny POS dugg to the top of the page.
Fact is he’s not a designer, otherwise would in fact find the AWESOME humor (& truth) in that post.
I’m still laughing!
I’d like the last hour of my life back.
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to CherryTop–really! wow, do you read that slowly? i loved it!
That’s some funny shit…
top of! A litle inspiration on Paul Rand’s argument, but super anyway!
God this is awesome The guy kept on asking for the charts even after all that.
so much for technical pie and its flexible approach to massive hostility
all americans need apple pie.. no profit no gain
but yummm..
that was amazing! i love that he made a chart that said only no he wont design the logo.
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
Btw…. These dudes are real – David Thorne graphic designer and Simon Edhouse –business development for a software company. LOL. Linked in profiles…
http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=12475517&authToken=ptn7&authType=NAME_SEARCH&locale=en_US&srchindex=5&pvs=ps&goback=%2Efps_David+Thorne_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_true_G%2CN%2CCC%2CI%2CPC%2CED%2CFG%2CL_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2
http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=312884&authToken=s_mk&authType=NAME_SEARCH&locale=en_US&srchindex=1&pvs=ps&goback=%2Efps_Simon+Edhouse_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_true_CC%2CN%2CI%2CG%2CPC%2CED%2CFG%2CL_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2
This is hilarious.. Most deffinately one of the funniest things i’ve seen in a long long time! Brilliant. Thanks for sharing!
How does someone make a pie chart without a topic or numbers.
Makes me wonder about all pie charts.
*dies laughing*
That’s brilliant.
Simply hilarious! Love the logo in #2.
Very funny as this is very close to my world as an on-line graphic designer!
Florence Nightingale must be so proud she invented the pie chart for this :-)
What a smart Alec
I was in the advertising and marketing business for way too long…and this smacks of conversations my creative directors, art directors and others had with outside sources, and sometimes with each other…all flaming aliens. Nothing new here, just names and dates…
nice work, folks! I’m 60, and still LOL’d until my Depens failed.
Life is simple, and good, this email is a good example of how important it is to have a funny bone. ay.
yup…having worked in IT for about 20 years, I can safely say this goes on constantly. And when the IT person tries to ask for reasonable compensation, the other person usually reacts like Simon.
And so it goes…you gotta love technology.
But you also gotta love the fools who think it has changed all the rules about how to treat others.
This is pure gold.
OMG, I’ll betcha the agency guy’s brother is an entrepreneur in Scottsdale.
this is hilarious. Absolutely awesome.
Wow, I have worked for this guy!
I've “lost” the pie charts in this message, and they're really important to it.
Where I used to be able to see them, I'm now getting only text that reads like “Fwd Pie Charts %E2%80%94 Inbox 20091204 101936 This must be the funniest email conversation ever”
Can anybody tell me what I need to do to see the pie charts again?
Thanks.
Dan
Pie charts are like arseholes, usually full of S**T!
Great post :))
funny indeed :-)
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