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	<title>Comments on: T-Mobile sold only 120,000 iPhones in Germany, Holland, and Austria</title>
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		<title>By: Joeles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha - I couldn&#039;t resist.
Well in normal cases i&#039;d say: depends on the chick, but seriously: A friend of mine works at t-mobile and so I had even access to the friends &amp; family - but really: i&#039;d never ever sign a contract with t-mobile ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t resist.<br />
Well in normal cases i&#8217;d say: depends on the chick, but seriously: A friend of mine works at t-mobile and so I had even access to the friends &amp; family &#8211; but really: i&#8217;d never ever sign a contract with t-mobile ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last remark just makes you whole comment unreliable. You would sign up even if they would include only 1 blond chick. Don&#039;t lie now! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last remark just makes you whole comment unreliable. You would sign up even if they would include only 1 blond chick. Don&#8217;t lie now! ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Ernst-Jan Pfauth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernst-Jan Pfauth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About how it was sold, see: http://thenextweb.org/2008/07/11/iphone-activation-causes-problems-6-hours-wait-in-amsterdam/
or search on Bright. It was just plain horrifying :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About how it was sold, see: <a href="http://thenextweb.org/2008/07/11/iphone-activation-causes-problems-6-hours-wait-in-amsterdam/" rel="nofollow">http://thenextweb.org/2008/07/11/iphone-activation-causes-problems-6-hours-wait-in-amsterdam/</a><br />
or search on Bright. It was just plain horrifying :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Joeles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Boris:
T-Mobile is known in germany as the &quot;AT&amp;T of Europe&quot;, since it is a subsidiary of German Telekom (which not only wiretaps it&#039;s customers, but it&#039;s employees and exceutives, too). T-Mobile offers the most crapiest voice &amp; data plans in the whole market, the customerservice sucks so hard, that every time you call them and ask the same question, you get a completely different answer - i really dont know where to start and where to stop. personally i would never ever sign a contract with t-mobile, even if they sold a device which is able to cook coffee, gets me a new job and 10 blonde chicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Boris:<br />
T-Mobile is known in germany as the &#8220;AT&amp;T of Europe&#8221;, since it is a subsidiary of German Telekom (which not only wiretaps it&#8217;s customers, but it&#8217;s employees and exceutives, too). T-Mobile offers the most crapiest voice &amp; data plans in the whole market, the customerservice sucks so hard, that every time you call them and ask the same question, you get a completely different answer &#8211; i really dont know where to start and where to stop. personally i would never ever sign a contract with t-mobile, even if they sold a device which is able to cook coffee, gets me a new job and 10 blonde chicks.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Tomeij</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Tomeij</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dutch complained about what exactly? The phone, or the way it was sold (queues, etc)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dutch complained about what exactly? The phone, or the way it was sold (queues, etc)?</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten</title>
		<link>http://thenextweb.com/2008/08/26/t-mobile-sold-only-120000-iphones-in-germany-holland-and-austria/#comment-365933</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only 59 million people in Germany own a phone right now. That&#039;s nearly 72 percent of the population which is below the European average of 77 percent. Germany, in general, is fairly conservative so I wouldn&#039;t have been surprised at lower numbers there at first. Also, T-Mobile is one of 4 players (formerly state owned) so they are probably the biggest player (are they?) but that would also limit uptake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 59 million people in Germany own a phone right now. That&#8217;s nearly 72 percent of the population which is below the European average of 77 percent. Germany, in general, is fairly conservative so I wouldn&#8217;t have been surprised at lower numbers there at first. Also, T-Mobile is one of 4 players (formerly state owned) so they are probably the biggest player (are they?) but that would also limit uptake.</p>
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		<title>By: Joeles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - and guess what: It&#039;s because carrier lock in sucks.
Although there is massive demand for the iPhone, customers elected by not buying the iPhone (or at least -not buying locked ones- currently legally unlocked iPhones without any contracts are availiable in belgium, italy and greece).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; and guess what: It&#8217;s because carrier lock in sucks.<br />
Although there is massive demand for the iPhone, customers elected by not buying the iPhone (or at least -not buying locked ones- currently legally unlocked iPhones without any contracts are availiable in belgium, italy and greece).</p>
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