Comments on: User generated content is worthless! http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/ International technology news, business & culture Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:31:00 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rob http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363617 Rob Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:01:28 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363617 Don't get too pissed! Web 2.0 is becoming an era of two platforms: The human race learning to express itself over the Internet; and, The development of tools, which the human race uses to express itself. Get pissed instead at the next platform, the Human Platform - People as the Platform - when someone becomes bright enough to use this human expression like a sword. http://web3solutions.blogspot.com Don’t get too pissed!

Web 2.0 is becoming an era of two platforms: The human race learning to express itself over the Internet; and, The development of tools, which the human race uses to express itself.

Get pissed instead at the next platform, the Human Platform – People as the Platform – when someone becomes bright enough to use this human expression like a sword.

http://web3solutions.blogspot.com

]]> By: Steven Carrol http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363616 Steven Carrol Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:51:35 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363616 Simone, it sounds like your doing it right IMO, If you was to let spammers, gamers, competitors, etc. see that they would gain by playing your system you would have no value. Loose your curators or system and loose your quality. Steve Simone, it sounds like your doing it right IMO, If you was to let spammers, gamers, competitors, etc. see that they would gain by playing your system you would have no value. Loose your curators or system and loose your quality.

Steve

]]> By: simone http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363615 simone Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:43:50 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363615 We have been using all the user generated content UGC (reviews of guests) which we received as a restaurant site iens.nl (the Dutch Zagat ons can say) each year for a condense editorial piece for each restaurant which reflected all the reviews. From those editorial pieces based on UGC we made books and we put the editorial pieces (for thousands of restaurants) on the website yearly under each restaurant. The writing of these pieces is based on strict guidelines as to the do's and the dont's and it involves a huge amount of work and it means that you have to read almost everything and involve a lot of culinary editors for a short period of time who are able to weight all the reviews etc. Is this what you mean by 'curated, mixed with other ingredients, collated into a palatable form that is served upon request, then it turns into something valuable…" There is always the discussion whether all this work for these ed. pieces is worth it each year, or whether you should only show all the reviews and let people scroll through them themselves. We have been using all the user generated content UGC (reviews of guests) which we received as a restaurant site iens.nl (the Dutch Zagat ons can say) each year for a condense editorial piece for each restaurant which reflected all the reviews. From those editorial pieces based on UGC we made books and we put the editorial pieces (for thousands of restaurants) on the website yearly under each restaurant. The writing of these pieces is based on strict guidelines as to the do’s and the dont’s and it involves a huge amount of work and it means that you have to read almost everything and involve a lot of culinary editors for a short period of time who are able to weight all the reviews etc. Is this what you mean by ‘curated, mixed with other ingredients, collated into a palatable form that is served upon request, then it turns into something valuable…” There is always the discussion whether all this work for these ed. pieces is worth it each year, or whether you should only show all the reviews and let people scroll through them themselves.

]]> By: Lars Teigen http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363614 Lars Teigen Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:06:17 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363614 So we have a common interest in this space:) I could get you some input on that article if you need some insight, (my general perspective of course, not just about S|B). Pls email me on lars at mydomain and we could perhaps talk some more. So we have a common interest in this space:) I could get you some input on that article if you need some insight, (my general perspective of course, not just about S|B).

Pls email me on lars at mydomain and we could perhaps talk some more.

]]> By: Steven Carrol http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363613 Steven Carrol Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:57:35 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363613 Hi Lars, Actually as I mention above in a comment, I'm really interested in this space and have been thinking about building a product with some ideas I have to lay on top. So I'm not best pleased that you have all beating me past the first fence lol. I think what I will do is a round up of all similar services in this space, but I tell you, you're on to something. I would appreciate hearing about any more that are similar in this space. I'm just looking at Twine now. Steve Hi Lars,

Actually as I mention above in a comment, I’m really interested in this space and have been thinking about building a product with some ideas I have to lay on top. So I’m not best pleased that you have all beating me past the first fence lol. I think what I will do is a round up of all similar services in this space, but I tell you, you’re on to something.

I would appreciate hearing about any more that are similar in this space. I’m just looking at Twine now.

Steve

]]> By: Lars Teigen http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363612 Lars Teigen Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:50:18 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363612 Thanks Steven, Right now, we're working on getting the basics of organizing, curating, mixing and collating content into a more structured form. Serving content upon request, filtering and recommending will be the next big step that we will take. I agree that that's where you'll find the real opportunities and user benefits. You're of course invited to take Secondbrain for a spin when you have some time. I'd be happy to introduce you to S|B personally. Lars Thanks Steven,

Right now, we’re working on getting the basics of organizing, curating, mixing and collating content into a more structured form.

Serving content upon request, filtering and recommending will be the next big step that we will take. I agree that that’s where you’ll find the real opportunities and user benefits.

You’re of course invited to take Secondbrain for a spin when you have some time. I’d be happy to introduce you to S|B personally.

Lars

]]> By: Steven Carrol http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363611 Steven Carrol Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:39:23 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363611 Hi Lars, I'm not sure it is necessary to first have to aggregate 'everything' first. I would imagine you could organise, filter, and recommend more intelligently than having the burden of storing all that data, which can become overload. You secondbrain concept seems interesting but I personally think without the latter features being core to the product the signal to noise ration will only get worse. Hi Lars,

I’m not sure it is necessary to first have to aggregate ‘everything’ first. I would imagine you could organise, filter, and recommend more intelligently than having the burden of storing all that data, which can become overload.

You secondbrain concept seems interesting but I personally think without the latter features being core to the product the signal to noise ration will only get worse.

]]> By: Lars Teigen http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363610 Lars Teigen Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:54:10 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363610 The point of aggregating everything into a single point is to be able to create smart features for organization, filtering and recommendation. The point of aggregating everything into a single point is to be able to create smart features for organization, filtering and recommendation.

]]> By: Steven Carrol http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363609 Steven Carrol Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:40:18 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363609 By worthless, I mean, unorganized it is valueless. Once it has been curated, mixed with other ingredients, collated into a palatable form that is served upon request, then it turns into something valuable... ;) By worthless, I mean, unorganized it is valueless. Once it has been curated, mixed with other ingredients, collated into a palatable form that is served upon request, then it turns into something valuable…

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]]> By: Zara http://thenextweb.com/2008/06/02/user-generated-content-is-worthless/#comment-363608 Zara Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:57:58 +0000 http://thenextweb.org/?p=1230#comment-363608 What you mean by worthless ? - maybe it's just your term that confuses me, use can be made of just about any content on-line, niche marketing depends on a wide variety of content to choose from, one persons junk is another persons treasure, that's how eBay started out I think ? What you mean by worthless ? – maybe it’s just your term that confuses me, use can be made of just about any content on-line, niche marketing depends on a wide variety of content to choose from, one persons junk is another persons treasure, that’s how eBay started out I think ?

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