“Myspace is the anti-christ for children”
Written on 9th April 2008
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Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten, Serial Internet Entrepreneur
On March 30 a bunch of girls in Florida invited Victoria Lindsay over to their house after an online conflict on Myspace got out of hand. Instead of talking things over they decide to beat the 16 year old girl up and film the whole experience with their phones and digital cameras. Victoria passes out during the fight, gets up and gets shouted at and beaten some more. After she escapes she is treated for a concussion at the hospital and has severe bruises all over her body.
The parents of Victoria talked to reporters on Monday about the whole experience. Being a father of two daughters myself and having watched the video of the fight I relate to them as parents. But unfortunately the focus of the story starts to shift from the 8 girls (now arrested) to the websites that these teenagers are using. Apparently Victoria had a profile on MySpace which got ‘hacked’ and the parents, and probably some of the viewers, seem to think that The Internet is the cause of all evil.
Understandably the parents look for someone to blame. And in this case that should be easy. 8 girls beat their daughter up and have several videos to proof it. But Victoria’s father repeatedly mentions online services as the real cause of this tragedy. He goes as far as calling MySpace “the anti-christ for children”.
I remember getting beat up (not as bad as Victoria though) as a kid over marbles and toys. But nobody ever needed to blame the stuff we fought over or the tools* we used to organize these fights. (* = We passed pieces of paper to each other in class. Not very high tech but it worked.)
One thing is clear though. Social networks are becoming an integrated part of society and as such have to come up with rules and regulations for these kinds of cases. How do you deal with teenagers (or any people) using your service to start a fight? Do social networks have a responsibility towards their users to keep them out of trouble? Can a social network claim the same position as ISPs when it comes to data traveling over their networks or services?
Some social networks are pro-active in their approach to these kinds of situations. I know of one example where a social network works closely with authorities when it comes to soldiers killed in action. The families of the soldiers are uncomfortable with online profiles of partying teenagers and would rather circulate an official portrait. Some social networks are giving in to requests to delete these profiles and the photos on them.
The question remains how far these social networks have to go in taking responsibility. If someone dies in a car accident, will they also take off the profiles? How about if someone is just very ill? Or not really ill but just a bad hair day? Where will they draw the line? They will have to decide what they think is their responsibility and what is not without making themselves vulnerable to the accusations that some people may throw at them.
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By Anne Helmond on Apr 9, 2008
Regarding the moral aspect of the tragic incident, such things do not only happen between teens. Recently a parent bullied a kid because the kid ended a friendship with her own child. The parent pulled a cruel hoax over MySpace which led the kid to kill herself. It sheds a different light on the “anonymity” & on the “kids bully kids” perspective because it transverses those boundaries.
I do not believe that technology is neutral or free of ideology. However, some technologies may enforce existing relationships better than others. This tragic cause shows the “real virtuality” in which the virtual and the real or offline/online distinction can no longer be made.
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By András on Apr 10, 2008
It’s parenting, or to be more precise, the lack of it. If these girls think it’s alright to beat someone up in the way they did, then there’s something wrong with their upbringing. I have accounts on social network sites and have played with the most violent games there are, but I don’t feel like beating someone up or killing someone, because my parents taught me that that is wrong. There a more civilised ways of settling disputes.
And besides, what are you gonna do? Ban all cutlery just because someone got stabbed with a fork?
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By Ellemijn Veldhuijzen van Zanten on Apr 10, 2008
There are few parents that will put the blame on their own children because they usually love their children and are simply unable to see that there’s something wrong with their child. One day one of my eldest sons was kicked in the stomach realy hard by one of his little friends. I grabbed the kid and got really mad with him. When his mother came to pick him up I told her what had happened. Her reaction was: “Oh my god, how did my son feel when you got angry with him?” She didn’t realize that my son hadn’t been able to breath normally for about ten minutes, she didn’t apolagize to me, she didn’t ask how my son was doing, all she worried about was her own son! That’s the blind love of a parent!
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By Tom on Apr 10, 2008
like little monkeys, (young) humans will continue to plan their schemes to retaliate on their peer targets.
The communities make it more public then it used to be. The behaviour of the 8 girls is shocking and hopefully being addressed properly.
If the channel has a mechanism that acts as an incentive for inappropriate behaviour it should be tackled as soon as possible by the community owner. So far I see the communities picking up on this unacceptable behaviour and act on it: actually it works as a monitoring mechanism. No beating up in dark alleys, but out in the open community….
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By David on Sep 23, 2008
So — let’s say the girls went old school, and instead of using Myspace to communicate, they picked up that crazy thing we call “the telephone”. Then I guess these rednecks would be calling the phone “Satan’s megaphone”. I don’t care to waste my time on people that are too stupid to understand simple concepts or to take responsibility for what goes on with their children under their own roof.
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By Crystal on Nov 4, 2008
I don’t believe that all this that happened from Myspace or You Tube. It had to have come from something else. I have a daughter and I do know that there is always something else that things stem from. This can not be blamed on anything dealing with the internet. For starters you blame the internet and don’t stop to think about you not watching what is going on in your childrens lives. My father is a preacher and I have been brought up in a Christian house hold all of my life. I believe that all things happen for a reason and maybe you need to go back and check to see what really happened and not blame the internet or the sites the children go on. Was your daughter friends with these girls? Did she hang out with them? For what reason woud they have to ask her to come over and do these things to her that is the real question here.
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By kierra on Nov 10, 2008
i would love to have a myspace but im onder age
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