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YouTube, Last.fm mashup is pretty good, very illegal

By Martin Bryant on November 9, 2009



YouScrobble 300x189 YouTube, Last.fm mashup is pretty good, very illegalYouScrobble takes elements of Last.fm and Youtube and wraps them up in a neat package. What a shame that it’s almost certainly illegal.

YouScrobble is designed to make searching for music quick and easy. By combining Last.fm’s music database with YouTube’s library of music videos it creates a slick platform for finding and watching your favourites artists’ perform.

Because it’s pulling in data from Last.fm, not only does a search for a song reveal its video in an embedded YouTube player but you get an artist biography, photos and links similar artists.

So far, so slick. Discounting the fact that the design is basically ripped off YouTube (but it’s in green instead of red so I’m sure Google won’t mind </sarcasm>), there’s nothing illegal here – it’s a really good way to browse and discover music videos.

Where YouScrobble drops the ball is by enabling downloads. Yes, each song has a ‘Download’ link you can click to get a free copy of the song downloaded to your hard drive.

“YouScrobble uses Last.fm and YouTube to satisfy your needs and is therefore fully legal!” shouts the front page. That’s not strictly true.

youscrobble download YouTube, Last.fm mashup is pretty good, very illegalYou see, the download YouScrobble gives you isn’t a fully authorised MP3. Instead it’s scraping the audio from the YouTube video and saving it as an MP3. There are countless scripts, apps and websites that already do this but it doesn’t mean they’re legal. While YouTube is authorised to stream music (including via embedded players on other sites) downloads are a completely different thing.

Aside from the legal issue, the downloads aren’t always what you might expect. I tried it with a song I already own and like – ‘See A Penny (Pick It Up)’ by obscure American act YACHT. Rather than give me an crystal clear MP3 of the original recording I got the audio from this bootleg video of a live performance of the song. Sure, sometimes you’ll get the recording you expect, but not always.

So, unauthorised downloads that will annoy rightsholders and an inconsistent quality level that will frustrate users. A poor combination, and one that’s amplified on both fronts when you realise that they’re limiting you to 15 downloads per day unless you pay between $4.99 and $14.99 to upgrade to 100, 200 or 500 songs per day. How much of that do you reckon is going to the artists and record companies?

The YouScrobble Terms of Service basically say (it’s nothing to do with us if it’s illegal, that’s down to YouTube). I wouldn’t bet on that, guys.

Seriously, they’re playing with fire here. If I were them I’d be expecting a lawsuit any day. It’s a shame too; if the developers stuck to creating a better front-end for music discovery on YouTube they’d be onto a winner. Instead they’ve gone down the seedy route of scraping audio and charging for it.

Go back to the drawing board guys, or chances are you’ll be going to court.

[via Orli]


Martin Bryant Co-founder, Social Media Café Manchester
Martin Bryant is based in Manchester, UK. A co-founder of the city's monthly Social Media Cafe events and award-winning blogger, he is Digital Content Editor for Marketing Manchester. His main interests are developments in the social web that relate to the mobile and music industries. Twitter, Blog, FriendFeed
10 Responses to “YouTube, Last.fm mashup is pretty good, very illegal”
  1. [...] uses is certainly the most controversial aspect of the service. As Martin Bryant over at Read Write Web points out it is one thing to embed videos on a website that playback music and another to offer [...]

  2. And NO support for Linux. Thanks for 4 nothing YouScrobble.

  3. Adri Munier says:

    missed that one for sure! thanks;)

  4. dave says:

    By the time they get shutdown they will have made a nice mint, which is probably the point of doing it.

  5. TubeRadioFM says:

    Couple things. First I’m shocked to see it took them an entire year to develop the site. And second, if you want to see a legal and kick ass integration of last.fm with youtube try http://www.TubeRadio.fm (4 months of development before launch)

  6. TubeRadioFM says:

    You’re better off using http://www.TubeRadio.fm (but we’re biased!)

    Seriously, illegal or not, what they do is against YouTube T&Cs.

    This comment was originally posted on gHacks technology news

  7. [...] all memory of the dodgy YouTube/Last.fm mashup we covered last week because we’ve found another one and this is so, so much [...]

  8. WTF says:

    THIS DIDNT WORK WORTH CRAP.

    This comment was originally posted on TheNextWeb.com

  9. I think they might be suffering problems thanks to traffic from this post – it was working fine when I tested it earlier.

    This comment was originally posted on TheNextWeb.com




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