Comments on: Google Reader is Wrong http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/ International technology news, business & culture Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:39:44 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bitful » From email and RSS to Facebook and Twitter http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465983 bitful » From email and RSS to Facebook and Twitter Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:47:27 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465983 [...] peaked), and even Dave Winer (that some consider 'the father of RSS') acknowledges that Google Reader is wrong because it views RSS as [...] [...] peaked), and even Dave Winer (that some consider 'the father of RSS') acknowledges that Google Reader is wrong because it views RSS as [...]

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]]> By: Thomas Petersen http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465981 Thomas Petersen Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:18:54 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465981 Hi Dave First of all big kudos for your contribution to field of digital communication. Having said that I would like to take issue with one of your comments. "But to see the market as stagnating you have to overlook the 800 pound gorilla running around the room throwing things all over the place. Twitter. We’re using it every day. If you follow more than a few dozen people you miss tweets all the time, and so what. Twitter doesn’t tell you how many you didn’t read because it doesn’t matter. If it’s important it will come back around again. If not, well no one can know everything." I think the problem is not that it will come back if it's important, but that you have to sit there and watch it item by item. Feeds are designed as bottlenecks for information, with you as the reader. I wrote a lengthy article on the subject that I hope you will have some time to read and perhaps comment on. http://000fff.org/slaves-of-the-feed-this-is-not-the-realtime-weve-been-looking-for/ Hi Dave

First of all big kudos for your contribution to field of digital communication.

Having said that I would like to take issue with one of your comments.

“But to see the market as stagnating you have to overlook the 800 pound gorilla running around the room throwing things all over the place. Twitter. We’re using it every day. If you follow more than a few dozen people you miss tweets all the time, and so what. Twitter doesn’t tell you how many you didn’t read because it doesn’t matter. If it’s important it will come back around again. If not, well no one can know everything.”

I think the problem is not that it will come back if it’s important, but that you have to sit there and watch it item by item.

Feeds are designed as bottlenecks for information, with you as the reader.

I wrote a lengthy article on the subject that I hope you will have some time to read and perhaps comment on.

http://000fff.org/slaves-of-the-feed-this-is-not-the-realtime-weve-been-looking-for/

]]> By: Ramin http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465980 Ramin Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:19:53 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465980 With all due respect Twitter or alike is the worst platform for reading, writing and communication promoted in an unusual way. I am with RSS readers and hope to see a new generation of them. With all due respect Twitter or alike is the worst platform for reading, writing and communication promoted in an unusual way. I am with RSS readers and hope to see a new generation of them.

]]> By: Jeff Nadler http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465979 Jeff Nadler Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:00:13 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465979 Google Reader suffers from a lack of prioritization, but then so does Twitter. After all these years it's amazing that there is still so much room for improvement in news clients. At the end of the day, Twitter and a RSS reader are not different in any meaningful way except that Twitter has less content. It's a slight overstatement to say that Google Reader is 'Wrong' but it has a ways to go. With the recent advancement of the bogus 'RSS Is Dead' meme, you have to wonder how much Google will be investing in it. Google Reader suffers from a lack of prioritization, but then so does Twitter.

After all these years it’s amazing that there is still so much room for improvement in news clients. At the end of the day, Twitter and a RSS reader are not different in any meaningful way except that Twitter has less content.

It’s a slight overstatement to say that Google Reader is ‘Wrong’ but it has a ways to go. With the recent advancement of the bogus ‘RSS Is Dead’ meme, you have to wonder how much Google will be investing in it.

]]> By: Matches Malone http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465978 Matches Malone Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:27:52 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465978 And, it probably wouldn't have been called Twitter, either :) And, it probably wouldn’t have been called Twitter, either :)

]]> By: graywolf http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465977 graywolf Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:43:14 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465977 of course if you only follow people who you know or are your friends, instead of the 10,000 people who friended you back you wont miss many tweets if you are away from your computer for a day or two. the second problem with the river is it assumes all information is of the same importance, it's not. of course if you only follow people who you know or are your friends, instead of the 10,000 people who friended you back you wont miss many tweets if you are away from your computer for a day or two.

the second problem with the river is it assumes all information is of the same importance, it’s not.

]]> By: Photar http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465976 Photar Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:24:11 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465976 Dave didn't even invent the technology which is his claim to fame as the granddaddy of the Internet. If only the unwashed masses would use his amazing technology the way he invisioned it! Dave wants people to fill their RSS readers with way more news than they can read and just skim the newest stuff and that is just a fundamentally outdated view of the world. The reason people are using rss like an inbox is because they only want to see the news that they already want to read. It's the same way with TV, the new generation wants their shows on demand they don't want 500 channels of shit. Same with radio. They want their songs when they want them. Why Dave Winer doesn't understand this has got to be because he's an old person. Dave didn’t even invent the technology which is his claim to fame as the granddaddy of the Internet.

If only the unwashed masses would use his amazing technology the way he invisioned it!

Dave wants people to fill their RSS readers with way more news than they can read and just skim the newest stuff and that is just a fundamentally outdated view of the world.

The reason people are using rss like an inbox is because they only want to see the news that they already want to read. It’s the same way with TV, the new generation wants their shows on demand they don’t want 500 channels of shit.

Same with radio. They want their songs when they want them.

Why Dave Winer doesn’t understand this has got to be because he’s an old person.

]]> By: Julian Bond http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465975 Julian Bond Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:52:11 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465975 Even with Reader set up to look like the River, there's way too much cruft in the interface and the headlines are too imposing. Even with Reader set up to look like the River, there’s way too much cruft in the interface and the headlines are too imposing.

]]> By: Julian Bond http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/21/google-reader-wrong/#comment-465974 Julian Bond Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:51:05 +0000 http://thenextweb.com/?p=36109#comment-465974 Show all items, expanded, is not so different from Radio's river of news. But to a large extent, I agree with Dave. Which is why I'm still using my homebrew reader 5 years on, because I haven't found anything that's as easy to read. Show all items, expanded, is not so different from Radio’s river of news. But to a large extent, I agree with Dave. Which is why I’m still using my homebrew reader 5 years on, because I haven’t found anything that’s as easy to read.

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